don’t mind me, I’m just waiting for more real cupcake comics and that mahou shoujo musume game that’s “hopefully” going to be done some day. (and secretly hope for the statue guardians of penny to be resurrected somewhere…)
Stop sketching violent things happening to cute girls and start adding pages to that story about violent things happening to cute girls. And add the damn dialogue already! Sheesh! “Text in progress” my ass!
Would you mind doing a longer Post/Update on your experiences on the Kickstarter? Its process after it was funded and how you fell about it now after its done?
I am interested in your opinion if its worth the work and afford to make a KS for a comicmaker and if it turned out like you calculated.
I hope you don’t mind me jumping in, but I did the KS thing for my thesis film a few years back. It can be a good thing or a terrible thing. I feel like now a days it’s overused. Everyone does it for every little project, which turns away a lot of potential donators who are sick of seeing people’s KS’s. And bare in mind, if you don’t reach your goal, you don’t get a dime. Which watching that ticker slowly go up is stressful. But when it comes through, its amazing. I definitely had no chance of doing my film without it. So there are definitely pros and cons to KS. Hope you have some very generous friends and family and best of luck if you give it a go. Remember, make your promotional video exciting, but to the point. You’re selling a product. Sell the hell out of it. Don’t deadpan it, but don’t used car salesman it either. Make people WANT to donate.
All the above! Hahaha, filmmaking. A few of my other projects are on my channel as well. But yeah, I planned the budget for one project, realized it would not be enough, so in secret from the thesis approval committee I planned Dead Astronaut and raised the money for it on KS. And still went slightly over budget. Most of my budget went to the special fx.
As far as what your goal should be, be realistic. Set an obtainable goal that makes sense for what you are doing. If your goal is high, you need to really be able to justify it. I’m sick of seeing KS’s for things that shouldn’t be more than a $3k-$5k goal and they want $10,000-$20,000 and all you can say is “for what?”
Yes thats happening to a realy great Cardgame right now, which I like a lot. But instead of an aim of 7-10K$ They want 30.000$ And will fail for sure. I cant understand this crazyness. When I try my own KS, I would strip all elements to the Bone to be still interesting but affordable and than rise the stuff with stretched Goals. I have looking KS projects for 2 Years now, and I dont understand a lot of projectbudgets beside for Greed and idiocity.
I dare say people think the project goals are too high because they don’t fully understand what goes into the costs. Because frankly, most people don’t have a clue what the costs are for anything outside their own field.
Also, many people forgot to pay themselves in the past, and they seem to be getting it now. If you need 10 weeks to make a project, that’s 10 weeks of your own time that you should budget in, whether it’s at $7, $15, or more an hour. If you had to hire so-and-so at $3000 for their part of the project you deserve that much for yourself as well. Creation isn’t free.
Honestly I haven’t heard at all of people getting “tired” of kickstarter. If anything it only keeps on ramping up. To top it off, the few studies that have been done so far point towards people drawn in for one kickstarter stay and pledge towards others – so there’s no “but the big guys are sucking up the little guys money wah wah wahhh!” that people try and claim there is.
That first part is not a justification if you can’t actually explain what the money covers. Which I’ve seen a number of times. Or they’re over-budgeting those costs. There’s giving yourself wiggle room and then there’s taking advantage of generosity.
Creation isn’t free, you’re right. Which is why you’re raising a budget for a project. Which is why you put a price tag on the completed work. You’re asking people to donate out of their own pockets to help you with a personal goal. Something that gets done in between whatever your day job is. Unless you’re actually quitting your job to strictly focus on the project, which you might have to if you’re doing a feature length film for a 1-3 month period or something equally laboring (completing a book within a time frame), there is no reason to factor in a payroll for yourself. You’re collecting charity from these people, not being hired by them.
I’ve had the discussion of KS a few times, online and in person, and have heard the words “tired of Kickstarter” more often than not. Or tired of aspects ABOUT kickstarter, such as people setting their goals too high. What you think you DESERVE and what you really absolutely NEED to get the job done are two very different numbers. I’m not saying KS is going anywhere when I say tired. It’s obviously working very well for a lot of people, I’m just saying there needs to be a little more grace on some of them. “Creation isn’t free” is a cop-out answer. If you can’t actually justify the costs beyond that arrogance, you don’t deserve a dime.
As an fulltime illustrator and graphicartist, I stick to “Creation isn’t free”
But some budgets cant be explained propperly and some want to have a budget of 30.000+ even if its a Cardgame, even if they choose Panda Company (doing like 60% of all KS games) a chinese Company with insanely low costs. And if you see otehr Cardgames of similar Size can be produced for ~ 5-10K$ That makes me wonder, where the money ends up. I want to be payed for my own KS, thats for sure. But in a reasonable frame. And than reap from the Stretched Goals and Hightlevel Pledges (from People who wants to pay more for extras)
As for Kickstarter costs and such, there are lots of hidden costs:
- prototypes going wrong or needing changes (can get expensive very quickly)
- price changes from vendors
- international shipping
- duties on stuff shipped to you
- lawyers fees
- packing material
- lots of incidental stuff you don’t think about (just stupid stuff like knives, scissors, tape, ink — it adds up fast)
- transportation costs
- storage fees
- recovery costs for damaged goods, bad addresses from backers, etc.
It goes on and on and on. And all this stuff takes time, too.
Seriously, if the KS wasn’t overfunded I could have easily went into the red. Actually, it turns out a lot of people DO go into the red when they just barely make it.
Yes, I have read several blogs about failures and miscalculations. KS is a great tool, but same with other tools, it needs to be used carefully or you loosing limps. Hidden costs adds up fast, true. I have to Be carefull about that.